Prescription Drugs are Poisons (opinion)

The only reason certain drugs are illegal is because somebody in a position of power at some point in time had a problem with them and was in a position to make it happen.

Much of these drugs are perfectly legal if under a doctor's prescription. it is because of the effects when these drugs are misused that people have found to be useful as a recreational drug. That causes overdoses and other problems bot personally and socially.

Oh, I do not disagree with the hiding of cures for profit.

I do not think cancer CAN be cured. Cancer is our own bodies turning against us. It happens in so many different ways that there is no way to get a handle on it. I think we all have cancer but that's because it is built into our species. It's just a matter of finding the right trigger to make it activate. A drug that stops cancer will likely stop us too.

Polka: In response with you to mongowildman: of course cancer can be cured when it begins to overtake a body. There are numerous sites online that deal with the conditions of the human body that allows the cancer to thrive and expand, and what natural/herbal/healthy changes to the body will allow the body to rebalance itself. It is when our bodies get off balance that it can nt fight cancer- or when we missed it, to a point that it is advanced, and a time period is insufficient to heal our body.

@!$%# yeah, it's even a healthier alternative to drinking alcohol itself...hell, a healthier alternative to any drug! even aspirin kills annually...caffeine kills as well...i mean, prescription drugs are the leading cause of fatal drugged driving accidents annually! marijuana don't even come close...with legalization, alcoholism will be on the decline, as well as illicit hard drug use, prescription drug abuse...and with all that, lower costs to health care costs and lower emergency room visits...jeez, even people who smoke tobacco will be able to quit with marijuana, which is anti-carcinogenic itself so there's no true absolute inherent danger to smokin the herb...especially with a vaporizer, no tars that way...it's messed up when it's illegal, and what's even worse is that there are patents for marijuana seeds by Monsanto, patents for medical marijuana by our own government, and plans for recreational marijuana already by our own government...hypocrisy at its finest...well, at its worse...oh hell, i don't even know what to call it...

absolutely!

Monsanto and all GMO plants should be destroyed.

Agreed! I think anything GMO or connected in any way with Monsanto should be destroyed immediately!

There are a butt-load of cannabis strains and crosses out there already, and Monsanto had nothing to do with it. I think the millions of closet growers around the world will be able to maintain their "heirloom" seeds. Also, there are plenty of overseas seed banks out there with no ties to Monsanto.

That is why it is still illegal. They can't control the industry, and keep all of the profits for themselves.

It has been proven that GMO plants have no benefit to anyone except the patent owner of said plants.

Good points mightyj.

Polka- There is a vine fire going right now that may turn into a flame war. Articles are being written and more people will likely be dragged into it tomorrow. I would expect some low turn out on regular articles until the drama dies down.

Some serious rioting in Greece, and it has a lot of attention.

More important than looking for natural cures might be looking for what is going on, in our society. Like what has been stated above, Diabetes and other illnesses have reached new epidemic proportions. Why? Isn't anyone asking WHY? What has changed in the past 50-75 years that this is surfacing now, at never before seen levels?

Our children(which for many) are now at/near 30-35 yrs old, are getting ill, and what was different 30-35 years ago, that is still different today? It needs to be something that was NOT so different for our parents, and possibly, affected us very little.

Besides the obvious Floride, and pollutants increasing- exhausts, fumes, and the like, what has reached nearly matching epidemic use has been pesticides, herbicides, and antibiotics in everything- commercial meat, chicken, eggs- actually, about everything that we consume has been treated, and antibiotics were put into use about ...1950 or so.

Another thing that has changed has been the addition of shots- immunizations- required for every child entering school.

And lastly, what has changed is the food processing, itself. More foods now than at any time prior are processed- canned beans, canned juice, canned tomato paste, canned spaghetti sauce, processed spaghetti, processed cereals- "READY-MADE FOODS"... This increased in use much more at the time I became a young mother- 35 years ago, as it took two wages to keep a household supported, and a new phenomenon also was more busy, single mothers (and dads), which made quick, processed even more needed.

For health, for the ability to not get sick, for the ability to fight off illness, for the ability to cure illnesses that we get, I think there is a big call to get back to - natural, fresh, self-grown, self preserved foods- 'organic', even though I hate to use that word. Nothing sprayed with pesticides, herbicides, chemicals EVER. I also believe we have inadvertently changed our diets, in that we have diets that nearly mimic each other, this whole nation over- we all live on what is supplied to the grocery stores, and though we might add a bit different herb or spice or seasoning, it is otherwise identical. Not wise. We need to learn what is edible that grows naturally, and what is medicinal that grows naturally, and begin adding them to our diets.

Triclosan- A pesticide they put in your clothes, in cutting boards, in dish soap, and is used as a cleanser for anti-microbial use (they stopped putting it in tooth paste). This chemical is hazardous to human health cannot be filtered out of waste water and is in our drinking water supply and has been found in dolphins at sea. There are rivers of it pouring off of the land into the sea contributing to global warming by killing the little plants that remove carbon from the atmosphere and the (so called) environmentalists say and do nothing.

When is the last time you actually heard of an environmental group doing something about pollution?

http://www.beyondpesticides.org/pesticides/factsheets/Triclosan%20cited.pdf

http://www.naturalnews.com/triclosan.html

What has changed in the past 50-75 years that this is surfacing now, at never before seen levels?

One of the is the life span of people has increased dramatically.

I think Karl just nailed it!

Diabetes has a cure. People must become aware of it.

Where can we find information about this cure? My wife is diabetic.

If you already posted it, sorry, I must have missed it.

Thanks! I'll look into it!

naturalnews.com

Just be careful about it. I wouldn't believe every thing on that site like "don't vaccinate your children".

I am in total agreement with you. They can even keep a straight face when they say, "this drug has been known to cause cancer." Seriously???!!! And they actually think that I'm going to rush right over to my doctor and ask for THAT prescription. Many of the side effects of these medications aren't worth the reason for taking them.

The lawyer commercials are something else. "If you or your loved one took this medication and developed this, this and that or died, please call the toll free number on your screen.

Many of these medications(and I don't care what the FDA says)are rushed out to the public and years later, there are new warnings or they're being pulled because people are developing life threatening illness or dying from them. The dead can't sue or collect on wrongful death lawsuits.

Many of the side effects of these medications aren't worth the reason for taking them.

How many people experienced the side effects? was it .00246% chance that you will have the side effect?

Auto 101, when I had my colonoscopy, it was found that I had diverticulitis. It is a result of constipation. One of my blood pressure/migraine medications CAUSES CONSTIPATION. So, taking one drug caused me to have a condition for which I now have to take a daily laxative for the rest of my life to combat the condition as a result of taking the high blood pressure/migraine medication.

I have to take a medication to keep my eyesight, which then caused side effects of which has now led me to have to take an additional medication to offset that side effect. The list goes on and on. But I think you get my point.

And Polka, you are right. The doctors are WELL compensated for prescribing these drugs.

Not to mention drug companies, for example Lilly, the makers of zyprexa. Lilly has been sued by several states because zyprexa had the potential to cause ketoacidosis, diabetes, pancreatitis, etc., and they kept this confidential. They did not send out a "Dear Doctor" letter until 2002, so lawsuits in the billions have been settled because of people developing life threatening conditions which Eli Lilly did not reveal until it could not longer be overlooked as just a coincidence. It's about the bottom line, always has been and always will be. Let's not forget Avandia and now, Yaz is in the news for people to call an attorney regarding settlements.

When you can create a DANGEROUS pharmaceutical product, bribe the right officials to get it fast tracked through the FDA and make $20 billion from it, then only have to pay out $50 million or $100 million settling wrongful death lawsuits 10 years later, it is considered good business.

You can knowingly kill thousands of people, say "Oops! My bad!" then toss a few dollars around and get away with it.

Sad, ain't it?

Sad, indeed Kyle...sad indeed.

One of my blood pressure/migraine medications CAUSES CONSTIPATION.

Tell you what stop taking your blood pressure medication and we will see the side effects of high blood pressure.

Auto, will do! THUNK!!!! That was my head hitting the keyboard as I fell out. Happy now?

Happy now

If you are .

..quite.

The carburetor is hidden technology by the manufacturers of cars.

Do you have any mechanical knowledge? It was a gimic that some one tried to sell in the 1920's.

Yes they do. They exist to make people sick.

I have never been sick from them.

People eat too much because food companies place MSG

No it is because they use ingredients that the body likes the taste likes for example surge of any type, sodium, and fat. all this all human body's craves and will seek after. Have you ever seen the documentary "fat head"?

No it is real. It gets 1000 or more miles to every gallon. The inventor was paid something like 30 million for the patent and now it is unused. Why?

I see you really have no clue how engines work. The optimal Air fuel ratio is 14.7-1. the leaner you go the more NOX and less power you get. The richer you go the more power you have but you produce more HC's. The currant record for hipper milers is 109 Miles to a gallon and that is with the reprogramming of the hybrid to have an air fuel ratio of 18 to one had heavy vehicle modification. Now lets look at the carburetor it uses vacuum to draw in the fuel to the engine it is then pulled in to the engine. to get the power on hard acceleration they would have it pump additional fuel in to the engine. it is one of the most inaccurate ways of putting fuel into an engine. Now If you go above the ratio of 23 you start getting misfires due to the difficulty of igniting the lean mixture.at around 26 the engine is lucky to run. the largest limiting factor in this is the engine efficiency the most efficient engine (internal combustion) is a diesel generator in South Korea and it his at 59% efficients the car engine is far more wasteful of energy.

I assure you that you would never get sick from natural cures.

tell that to the thousands of Cancer patients that have died using your natural cures. or the thousands of ADS patients.

It only occurs to sell more drugs.

Your are starting to sound like the people that don't believe in climate change.

It is MSG. They are even spraying it on vegetables now.

yes this is a conspiracy that they have been using MSG for 100 years(sarcasm).

It is done to make people eat more.

People eat more for far more reasons than MSG. it is because they are board. they want a salty snack/sweet. It is part of natural for humans to eat more and to get fat. The reason Americans are so fat is food is never before so available. And Americans Know how to eat it is not uncommon to get 2-4 helpings. it is a fact that Americans eat more calories than any other country and most of the calories is eaten driving a car. I have lost 12 pounds in the last 14 days by just eating 2000 calories a day and I have found it is easy to live like this. If you count what you eat you tend to eat less because you know how much you eat.

One more thing do you find it amusing that the quality of life has gone up and so has the life Span? now that is threatened in America from obesity People that have no will power and have been taught they have no control in their life it is Mom and Dad's fault.

the most efficient engine (internal combustion) is a diesel generator in South Korea and it his at 59% efficients

Holy crap!! That is the most efficient engine I have ever heard of. They must be recovering the heat energy from the exhaust and the block coolant. They are probably injecting water too.

Most combustion engines are around 30 percent efficient. If all of the cars on the road were 60 percent efficient the world would use a hell of a lot less oil. (Or everyone would just drive around more.)

Holy crap!! That is the most efficient engine I have ever heard of. They

IT is not a car and I was off by 9% it is 50%

Designed to provide the motive force for a variety of supertankers and container ships, it comes in 6 cylinder in-line through to a whopping 14 cylinder version. The cylinder bore is 38 inches and the stroke is just over 98 inches. Each cylinder displaces 111,143 cubic inches (1820 litres) and produces 7780 horsepower. Total displacement comes out to 1,556,002 cubic inches (25,480 litres) for the 14-cylinder version.

At a length of 89 feet and a height of 44 feet, the total engine weight is 2300 tons - the crankshaft alone weighs 300 tons.

The RTA96C-14 can achieve a maximum power output of 108,920 hp at 102 rpm and astonishingly, at maximum economy the engine exceeds 50% thermal efficiency. That means, more than 50% of the energy in the fuel is converted to motion. Its Brake Specific Fuel Consumption (BSFC) at maximum power is 0.278 lbs/hp/hr.

http://www.gizmag.com/go/3263/

They have got to be injecting water and recovering heat from that thing to get it up there. I bet it runs on bunker C fuel as well.

IT is not a car

Yeah you said it was a generator engine. So now I am thinking it is a propulsion generator for a large vessel with electric mains.

I would like to see one of those things...... (I am a boat engineer)

Yeah you said it was a generator engine. So now I am thinking it is a propulsion generator for a large vessel with electric mains.

I think your right I'm not sure. It is just a larger version of what I work on( with a few add ons but the basics are the same).

Organic brown rice syrup is often used as a substitute for high fructose corn syrup in prepared organic foods. One of the infant formulas tested contained twice the inorganic arsenic allowed in drinking water, according to Environmental Protection Agency standards. One cereal bar contained 12 times the legal limit for drinking water of 10 parts per billion (ppb). High-energy foods tested had 8 to 17 times the limit.

They are designed to cause illness

I find this very hard to believe. Are you suggesting massive conspiracies among scientists, chemists, and business owners?

You know that after a few years of 'grace' the drug compounds go basically public so that generics can be made? Don't you think, at least, they would find malice if it existed?

That's enough 'tin foil hat' talk for me for one day.

Enjoy your discussion.

he does have a point...these drugs do NOT cure any damned thing...at all. they're designed to alleviate some things, i.e. pain, blood clots, etc., but they just don't cure anything. one has to wonder why? it seems that the grand design is to produce more drugs at more cost for more profit, even if some CAN help. for example, it's known that marijuana has compounds that actually FIGHTS cancer, and can stop it. yet big pharma doesn't want to jump on this? hmmm...yes, they have marinol (dronabinol), but that's synthetic...simply a way to patent something that's nearly impossible to recreate without the help of some superlab...if people really care about those who are suffering, why don't they just use a cure, not something that keep all these diseases, etc. as drawn out as possible?

The corporations of the medical industry are in the business of making money. Curing disease is not a money making proposition. Treating disease is. The perfect prescription medication keeps you alive but requires you to take it for the rest of your life. In a perfect world it should also allow you to spread the disease to others creating even more sales opportunities.

It's win win. (:

if people really care about those who are suffering, why don't they just use a cure, not something that keep all these diseases, etc. as drawn out as possible?

Like mightyj said, "Curing disease is not a money making proposition. Treating disease is."

They want you to be dependent on them, subservient to their chemical cocktails and other snake oils.

Ever noticed how many highly addictive "approved medicines" were out there just long enough to get people hooked, so they could pull them from the market, then introduce them to the black market?

The war on drugs is a sham, concocted to keep natural medicines illegal, and funding the 1%'s war against the people with our own tax dollars. Smoke and mirrors, and it keeps them rich, while they destroy the economy and further rob us blind.

Curing disease is not a money making proposition.

Yes it is. Someone selling a cure for diseases can charge more money than someone selling a treatment.

not if big pharma and big brother have anything to say about that...

Someone selling a cure for diseases can charge more money than someone selling a treatment

sigh........Once the disease is cured there goes your chance for repeat customers.

How is that plan working for the cure for small pox people?

How is that plan working for the cure for polio people?

It isn't.

Selling treatments that keep them coming back till the day they die missing their rent and car payments to get the drugs they must have.......that is where the money is.

Once the disease is cured there goes your chance for repeat customers.

Until your customers get sick again.

lol horseman...only god's world will cure, huh? you'll have to remove the hoof from your mouth...:

^{Genesis 1:11-1:12:
11}And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so.

¹²And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

Ezekiel 34:29

King James Version (KJV)

²⁹And I will raise up for them a plant of renown, and they shall be no more consumed with hunger in the land, neither bear the shame of the heathen any more.

(hemp, anyone? it has helped people survive through famines through edible hempseeds)

Matthew 15:11

King James Version (KJV)

(Jesus quoted)

¹¹Not that which goeth into the mouth defileth a man; but that which cometh out of the mouth, this defileth a man.

"In the later times, some shall … speak lies in hypocrisy … commanding to abstain from that which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth." (Paul: 1 Timothy 1-4)

**whoops...misspell in the first sentence..."only god's world" should read "only god's word". yeah, damn that infernal third finger!

Excerpts from the book of the holy stoner.

"Duuuuuuude let there be light and the bowl was lit and he saw that it was good."

yeah...condemn jesus...you know that they used cannabis oil as "holy oil" that they smeared all over themselves while "the lord spake unto them"?

There is no way I will ever condemn Jesus. If I did who would mow my lawn?

the other jesus! and why in the hell would you support illegal immigration? fight illegal immigration and boycott landscaping!

I mentioned Jesus and grass......I thought that would make you happy. (: I am laughing now

riiiiight.....i'd be happier if neither one had to be mentioned...in an ideal world, no religion and legal marijuana...

You're alright Joe420. (:

so, a wimp that accepts science, huh? cuz those drugs wouldn't exist without a lil' help from your friendly neighborhood scientist...what was all that about only god can help you?

When I was younger they had a really great drug that killed pain but was non-mood altering. All the pain killing power of morphine with no high. Great stuff. Too bad they found out later that it destroys your liver.

actually marijuana is a non-mood altering "drug"...here, as an example:

Smoked cannabis for chronic neuropathic pain: a randomized
controlled trial

We found no differences in mood or quality
of life.

http://www.cmaj.ca/content/early/2010/08/30/cmaj.091414.full.pdf+html?ijkey=44cf2a4e01bb03581946f0ab6b7217d7a6e78f0b

Nope, it just kills brain cells.

mmmmm....nope. studies show that marijuana helps create NEW brain cells, it doesn't kill brain cells...
http://news.healingwell.com/index.php?p=news1&id=528519
http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn8155

joe420er

I saw alot of propraganda sites, I worked in a hospital, I have delt with Mental patients,

YES it does. Over time, can also attriute to learning disabilities in children when mom smokes.

I saw it , I know it does.

usually those types of people are the ones who use other hard illicit drugs and drink alcohol and abuse prescription drugs...i myself have been smokin the herb for over 20 years now...i don't do other drugs, not even prescription drugs, unless you count coffee...well, i also drink alcohol but in moderation (once or twice a month i'll get a six pack)...you saw what you want to believe. i find it hard to believe that these people you mention abused marijuana alone. and two of my kids are honors student. the youngest hasn't gotten there yet, she's only 8...i know it doesn't do what you claim.

joe420

You apparently were lucky. Time will tell

well...time has told.

two of my kids are honors student. the youngest hasn't gotten there yet, she's only 8

Not exactly an "Average Joe", eh? :-)

oh, i'm average alright...just not my kids! ;)

Well Joe, I hope that your kids Grow up to be Kind people.

:-)

yeah me too...fingers crossed. and yeah, i saw that play on words there. ;)

:-)

All is well.