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A National Embarrassment

Thu Aug 5, 2010 8:26 PM EDT
obesity, poverty, government, us-news, low-income-families, national-embarrassment
By Polka14

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Is Obesity our greatest embarrassment?

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Should the government do more to defeat Obesity?

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America is a great nation. Its greatness was built on the ideals of freedom, equality and justice. Americans have fought in many battles to maintain these ideals, fought on battlefields and in courthouses. As great as this unique nation is, I have been feeling a sense of embarrassment. Our unique position as the greatest nation certainly has its benefits however we have developed a significant drawback that has been hurting the people of this nation for years. This problem is obesity. America has become the unhealthiest nation in the world.

There are reasons why foreigners mock Americans for obesity. In 2009, every state in the Union (with the exception of Colorado) has at least 20% of their population labeled as Obese. That is at least one out of five. Because so many Americans are obese, I consider this to be a national embarrassment. A national embarrassment because it affects certain peoples more then others. There is a reason why blacks have a 51% greater chance of becoming obese and Hispanics have a 21% greater chance. Child obesity is a big problem too. Studies in 2006 show that obesity prevalence exists in 12.4% in children aged 2-5 years, 17% in children aged 6-11 years and 17.6% for children aged 12-19 years.

This national embarrassment is heavily linked to poverty. Americans with low-incomes simply can not afford to eat nutritious foods. They have no choice but to feed their children inexpensive waste from the local "fast-food" locations or other high-calorie fatty foods from their local thrift stores. Many low-income families are surrounded by establishments that mainly sell those unhealthy products and many low-income children are unable to eat nutritious foods because their parents often work in multiple jobs. Low-income families are normally unable to exercise regularly because they can not afford to go to exercise facilities and can not exercise outside in their own neighborhoods due to safety reasons. America is the greatest nation but it is embarrassing to see so many Americans overweight and obese because of their low income. It is sad and pathetic that the citizens of the best nation on Earth are obese because they can not afford to eat nutritious foods. That is another part of our shameful embarrassment with obesity.

This national embarrassment even costs this nation in terms of increased health care costs. They have trouble adapting to the current infrastructure. It is incredibly embarrassing to see those obese people catered to on airlines or anywhere else. Even simply observing obese people is embarrassing. They are everywhere and they have no shame toward how people view them. We should not be viewed as a nation of obese people. It damages our image and reduces our standing in the world. If a foreigner desired to insult an American, they would probably go after obesity before they start with the imperialist card! I am tired of hearing insults from foreigners about our obesity problem. It is simply embarrassing!

Obesity affects everyone. It results in higher fuel costs for commercial planes. Obesity ages people faster so they are not as productive to society as a non-obese person would. The government has to pay more to help obese people so even equates to higher taxes! All these problems with obesity are embarrassing. We easily have the highest percentage of overweight citizenry in the world and everyone is paying for it.

To conclude, I would like to repeat that America is the greatest nation in the world and even the Universe but if we fail to defeat obesity, our greatness will be reduced while our life expectancy drops lower and lower. The government should probably do something to defeat obesity. Obesity is perhaps America's most embarrassing problem that needs to be eliminated before it is too late. I would like to ask everyone if they think obesity is this nation's greatest embarrassment. What do you think about people you know that are obese. Are you obese yourself? What do you think the government should do? Lastly, is obesity America's greatest embarrassment?

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Polka14

I would like to ask everyone if they think obesity is this nation's greatest embarrassment. What do you think about people you know that are obese. Are you obese yourself? What do you think the government should do? Lastly, is obesity America's greatest embarrassment?

Obese people need to get help. NOW.

  • 3 votes
#1 - Thu Aug 5, 2010 8:27 PM EDT
Olbermansadink

You're kidding me, right ?

  • 6 votes
#1.1 - Thu Aug 5, 2010 10:38 PM EDT
Polka14

No. Obese people need to improve their health and their lives. Many of them need help to accomplish that.

  • 2 votes
#1.2 - Thu Aug 5, 2010 11:09 PM EDT
OlbermansadinkDeleted
Polka14

Can't kill you but I'll delete you.

    #1.4 - Thu Aug 5, 2010 11:23 PM EDT
    Olbermansadink

    Again, you want the United States Government to control "someone elses" obesity ?! Wow !

    egnirf citanul

    • 5 votes
    #1.5 - Thu Aug 5, 2010 11:40 PM EDT
    Polka14

    Again, you want the United States Government to control "someone elses" obesity ?! Wow !

    Yes. I want the government to help obese people. It is for their own good. Did you complain when the government involves itself in public schools with the No Child Left Behind Act? That was attempting to "control" the academic performance of children. And for your information, the government already involves itself in our diets with taxes against sodas and other bad foods. They want to control the extreme epidemic known as obesity and they should do more.

    • 1 vote
    #1.6 - Thu Aug 5, 2010 11:45 PM EDT
    Olbermansadink

    Personally, I think you are absolutely crazed, meddlesome and totally in the minority. But I'll oblige:

    It is for their own good. Did you complain when the government involves itself in public schools with the No Child Left Behind Act?

    Yes, Loudly. The strains and unreasonable expectations that it's placed on schools and teachers was very poorly thought out(typical unecessary govt meddling for political appeasements only).

    And for your information(are you twelve years old ?), the government already involves itself in our diets with taxes against sodas and other bad foods.

    And that's plenty from our Govt, thank you.

    Have you ever considered a move to Canada, Polka ? They rock. And btw, I go 300 lbs and don't you even try to take away my Ronny Mac's, you bored busy body.

    • 6 votes
    #1.7 - Thu Aug 5, 2010 11:59 PM EDT
    Marshall James

    lets just ration the food of the fatty's. our government needs to prevent people from eating to much....lets ban all fast food restaurants. at least to the fat people. lets tax them more since the are fatty cost our healthcare more.

    just so you know if our government gets involved in this, its just one more step towards fascism.

    sorry but this is not the governments concern.

    if someone wants to be fat or not care if they are...its their right as an american and as a human being. No one is forced to be overweight.

    and here i thought this article was going to be about something of value...like our corrupt government or something substantial.

    dont worry seeder I am sure our government will get involved and force people to get thinner....probably by taxing and increasing their healthcare rates...effectively invading into the homes of americans and manipulating behaviors of its citizens. but to you that would be a good thing huh?

    ridiculous.

    • 6 votes
    #1.8 - Fri Aug 6, 2010 3:05 AM EDT
    UNA_Lion

    Think education might be a good course of action - train children from an early age to avoid fatty foods and sugars. How many parents stuff their kids with sugar from the most early age?

    • 3 votes
    #1.9 - Fri Aug 6, 2010 3:12 AM EDT
    Marshall James

    polka

    I just caught your comment......"its for their own good" wow omg. you believe in forcing people into something for "their own good" hmmmm what if a mormon wants to force the public so they are saved in the afterlife "for their own good" would you agree with that??? not picking on mormons...sorry just should of said religion. anyway would you agree with that???

    who are you or anyone else to decide what is good for someone???? are you being for real?

    you know who else thought that people should conform for their own good???? mussolini, hitler, stalin, need I go on???

    I hope you are some socialist european because if not...and you are an american...i am embarrassed for you and I would disagree on what the national embarassment is.....our national embarassment is people who are fascist who live in this country.

    peace.

    • 8 votes
    #1.10 - Fri Aug 6, 2010 3:14 AM EDT
    Jason Burnham

    polka: When I eat fast food it isn't because it's cheap. It's because I just don't feel like I want to cook. Fast Food usually costs five times what I could buy and cook. The reason people eat so much of it is because they are being lazy at that time. They don't want to go and take the time to go make their own food.

    Now we have liberals thinking they need to go regulate cheeseburgers because people are fat. The reason they are fat is for a number of different reasons. Some of it is diet, some of it is lack of exercise, some of it is genetics, etc. but instead of looking at the big picture... I don't even need to point this out. I think we need to regulate people in pumping out stupid ass liberals.

    I'm with James on this. You need help.

    • 10 votes
    #1.11 - Fri Aug 6, 2010 5:21 AM EDT
    Manfred-1987715Deleted
    Consider It

    I wouldn't want the government to "control" it.

    But awareness and education can be discussed more. More than 300,000 people will die this year due to obesity. I'm not embarrassed by it as much as I'm concerned.

    • 4 votes
    #1.13 - Fri Aug 6, 2010 9:12 AM EDT
    Polka14

    sorry but this is not the governments concern.

    Yes it is. It is the government's concern when the bad choices of these obese people start costing the taxpayers billions in additional and preventable health care costs.

    No one is forced to be overweight.

    Many are essentially trapped in a difficult situation with their health because of economic problems. Wealthy people are not overweight.

    like our corrupt government or something substantial.

    I'm sorry this is not one of the 5000 articles about bad government that are posted daily. Go find one.

    who are you or anyone else to decide what is good for someone?

    Government intervention would be mainly strict government restrictions on fatty and other unhealthy foods. It would be similar to the concept of government regulating alcohol. A forced reduction in obesity will save many lives. The mormon concept was only about opinion though and not the same concept.

    When I eat fast food it isn't because it's cheap. It's because I just don't feel like I want to cook.

    If fast food is so expensive, why do ALL low-income families eat there? It is because they have no choice. Why spend $15 or more on lean meat and vegetables when you can spend $5 on a pizza?

    Some of it is diet, some of it is lack of exercise, some of it is genetics, etc.

    And in the end, the reason is not really important. Obesity needs to be defeated. Society can not afford the burden of these heavy people. They are ruining this nation and they are our greatest embarrassment.

    Then Big Brother wants to help you with every other aspect of your life........

    For your own good, of course.

    Maybe that "For your own good" statement was too broad. I only wished to state that the government has a right to regulate unhealthy foods to prevent obesity.

      #1.14 - Fri Aug 6, 2010 10:53 AM EDT
      Marshall James

      Yes it is. It is the government's concern when the bad choices of these obese people start costing the taxpayers billions in additional and preventable health care costs

      that is a problem of a socialist country...not a free one. I shouldnt dictate what you eat or how you live your life, therefore I shouldnt have to pay for your decisions.

      Many are essentially trapped in a difficult situation with their health because of economic problems. Wealthy people are not overweight.

      being poor has nothing to do with it. Growing up I was poor and none in my family were overweight. I went to bed slightly hungry many nights. People are fat because they are either lazy or because of genetics. it was explained in an above post by Jason I believe. I happen to know a very large family of 7 who live off one income of a nurse. they do not own new cars...have little material things...but are in great shape as a family...as a matter of fact they just went on a 25 mile backcountry hike as a family...and guess how much it cost them???? 0. its behavior genius. This is a much deeper problem than the fatty food we consume.

      Government intervention would be mainly strict government restrictions on fatty and other unhealthy foods. It would be similar to the concept of government regulating alcohol. A forced reduction in obesity will save many lives. The mormon concept was only about opinion though and not the same concept

      I would actually agree...the mormons and other religous groups want to save your eternal life which is a bit more important than your mortal life. It is the same. Forcing a reduction or behavior by government is a fascist staple. Think about what you type. Unless of course you are a fascist then its ok for you to have this mindset...Of course I would disagree with you.

      If fast food is so expensive, why do ALL low-income families eat there? It is because they have no choice. Why spend $15 or more on lean meat and vegetables when you can spend $5 on a pizza?

      because they are lazy. its part of our culture...like I have said this is a bigger problem than just food. its a mindset that our liberal agenda has brought us. Have you ever heard the term....."when you subsidize something you get more of it" its true. this is a sociological and psychological problem...not a food problem.

      And in the end, the reason is not really important. Obesity needs to be defeated. Society can not afford the burden of these heavy people. They are ruining this nation and they are our greatest embarrassment.

      Your degradation of obese as being the greatest embarassment to our country is totally off. Personally to me our greatest embarassment is how people fall victim to PR and are so easily manipulated by what is reported on tv....you are an example. Serial killers are an embarassment, child molestors are an embarassment, gangs shooting up their neighborhoods are an embarassment....

      the only way to fix the problem is by addressing what the problem is....and food isnt it. there has always been food around....but our society and its attitudes are what are making/causing people to be obese. To blame food or economics on this is just throwing blame on the very obvious thing without using thought or reasoning...its an american staple to do so...just look how Sherrod got fired...no investigation...just knee jerk reaction without thinking.....that is an embarassment.

      Maybe that "For your own good" statement was too broad. I only wished to state that the government has a right to regulate unhealthy foods to prevent obesity.

      if they have a right to regulate unhealthy food to prevent obesity...why stop there...why not give us a certain amount of credits for calories...you can only purchase a certain amount each month or be imprisoned because you are a burden on society??? why not regulate everything that is bad for you....who are you or our government to tell someone how they should live their life??? Lets regulate coffee, all processed foods...only fresh foods are to be available from now on....when does this all stop??? then we should focus on dangerous behaviors that increase our insurance rates....outlaw motorcycles, cliff diving,

      if people want to make bad decisions in their lives it is their right as an american and a human being. They own their body not anyone else including you or our government. to tell someone what to do with their body would imply they do not have control over themselves and therefore are a slave as they cannot decide with free will what to do with themself.

      your reasoning and thought process on forcing people through government regulation and taxing is a fascist thought process. It is not something a free man thinks.

      I truly hope someday you see the light. People in this country are supposed to be free....Free to make good decisions and bad ones.

      peace.

      • 7 votes
      #1.15 - Fri Aug 6, 2010 11:43 AM EDT
      Desertzonie

      Yes it is. It is the government's concern when the bad choices of these obese people start costing the taxpayers billions in additional and preventable health care costs.

      -- No it isn't. If the Govt wasn't in the health care business we wouldn't have to worry about the additional costs. Granted, for those of us that choose to have insurance, the costs would be passed along but just how much do you project your "fat police" will cost us? Are govt nanny programs free now? -- If we are going to stop things because of bad choices costing the govt billions, much of the liberal agenda would go by the wayside.

      I truly hope someday you see the light. People in this country are supposed to be free....Free to make good decisions and bad ones.

      Well said, James!

      • 5 votes
      #1.16 - Fri Aug 6, 2010 12:21 PM EDT
      Doug-375144

      Too much F@#$ing Gov't already please stop the entitlement nanny state stampede over everyone's personal life, I for one would like them to stop.

      Why are too many overweight ? No PE in schools , kids don't go outside and play,adults too get too little exercise , go for a walk

      • 4 votes
      #1.17 - Fri Aug 6, 2010 4:46 PM EDT
      bgates43

      Polka,

      I'm struck that you chose the word "embarrassment," rather than crisis, dilemma, health challenge, etc. It's as though you most upset that we look fat.

      I've battled weight all my life, yet I continue to be active, healthy and fat well into my 60s. I'm not proud of my weight but I know that it is something I manage. I certainly don't see a government role beyond nutritional information to help people make good food choices.

      I think we've got problems with obesity but going zealot on it isn't going to help.

      • 4 votes
      #1.18 - Fri Aug 6, 2010 6:34 PM EDT
      Polka14

      I'm struck that you chose the word "embarrassment," rather than crisis, dilemma, health challenge, etc. It's as though you most upset that we look fat.

      It is embarrassing. I can't stand the sight of them. The pathetic nature of their failure to control themselves is sickening.

      • 1 vote
      #1.19 - Fri Aug 6, 2010 7:01 PM EDT
      Marshall James

      polka

      come on answer to my post....come on argue against it. are you able to see without tunnelvision????

      • 3 votes
      #1.20 - Fri Aug 6, 2010 7:14 PM EDT
      Polka14

      because they are lazy. its part of our culture

      This sounds like the "always blame the victim" mentality. They are not lazy. Most low-income families work long hours in one or more jobs and they can not afford the time or money to buy good nutritious foods. They simply can not. This leads to obesity. Obesity is still an embarrassment though.

      • 2 votes
      #1.21 - Fri Aug 6, 2010 7:27 PM EDT
      Marshall James

      that is all you got out of my post???? my oh my

      for the most part yes they are lazy. there are exceptions of course...but overall they are lazy. They have time to run to fast food they have time to plan meals for the week. When I went through school i did not have a day off for a year. worked 5 days a week along with full time school and two of those days I worked 16 hours a day.

      I still had time between school, work and studying to cook.

      its what you do with your time...if you want to sit in front of the tv all day then be my guest....or even a couple hours in the eve. the only tv show I have watched in the last 8 years was LOST....and damn I am all bummed its over.

      ok got sidetracked.....its a deeper issue than not having time.....please see that you are incorrect on this issue. I know you are a concerned citizen, and if you are truly concerned you need to focus your attention on the root of the problem....if what you say is true and its time...then by all means we should stop them from working so they have time to cook and pay for them to live for the rest of their lives so they never have to have a time ever again where they dont have time to cook.

      of course that isnt the issue and you know it....the issue is deeper than time and the food they eat.

      oh and how many times are we going to tell you nutritous foods are cheap??? when is this going to sink in??????? for the love.

      peace.

      • 7 votes
      #1.22 - Fri Aug 6, 2010 8:15 PM EDT
      Polka14

      that is all you got out of my post???? my oh my

      Forgive me. I wanted to post more but I was interrupted and was unable to finish. Let me continue...

      I shouldnt dictate what you eat or how you live your life, therefore I shouldnt have to pay for your decisions.

      You may not like it but our taxes go to pay for health care. Health care that goes to pay the enormous costs of obesity. Obesity effects everyone. Why can't we have a say in America's health problems?

      being poor has nothing to do with it.

      Yes it is. Unhealthy foods full of fat are incredibly cheap. I buy my own food. It is expensive to buy healthy foods for myself alone. I do not expect a low-income family of four to be able to afford healthy foods like fresh fruits and vegetables and ingredients to make healthy meals that has to be cooked; children can't be expected to do that and that is why their parents would buy them bad foods. The alternative most people buy is the cheap food that is very unhealthy.

      Forcing a reduction or behavior by government is a fascist staple. Think about what you type.

      Not really. We outlawed alcohol once. Therefore the government has precedent to outlaw foods that exceed a certain unhealthy level. The best option would be to create a tax on fatty foods and create legislation that sets a permanent low price for fruits, vegetables and other healthy foods to make it affordable for low-income people.

      but our society and its attitudes are what are making/causing people to be obese

      That is certainly part of the problem and our embarrassment. What should be done about it? Educating people doesn't seem to have enough of an effect against obesity. If American obese people were not catered to with anything obese-friendly, maybe they would be encouraged to try to lose weight?

      if people want to make bad decisions in their lives it is their right as an american and a human being.

      You are partially correct but those bad decisions effect everyone in the nation. I suppose they can become obese if they really wished to die a slow painful death but they should not be catered to in any way in society. Obese people truly make me sick.

        #1.23 - Fri Aug 6, 2010 10:08 PM EDT
        Marshall James

        the cost of healthcare on society is the problem of a socialism not a free country for one and you still did not explain how you or anyone else can dictate how I live my life.

        being poor has nothing to do with it as healthy food is also cheap...this has been settled long before..dont know why you keep revisiting it.

        prohibition went over really well didnt it???? that time in our history was very dark and the closest to fascism we have ever been...eugenics, incarerating 175,000 americans without due process.....not really a great time,.

        you just dont get it. the problem is not food...its a society that promotes the lifestyle of having no consequences to your actions that has produced this...education will do nothing. kinda like sex education....they wanted to educate us to decrease the rates of std and teen pregnancy....but guess what within 15 years of sex education starting teen pregnacy doubled and std rates tripled.

        its a mindset of having no consequences.....that is what liberalism or socialism breed...dont worry you can do anything and the government will take care of you or protect you......then guess what happens??? it doesnt work for long and people get tired of it then start controlling peoples lives such as what you are talking about and presto...fascism.

        I hope you come around...

        peace.

        • 4 votes
        #1.24 - Fri Aug 6, 2010 10:17 PM EDT
        Davy-755715

        I can't help it, it was nice when the health nazis were in their closets; in case nobody is aware, people aren't likely at present, to live into their 130's. In any case, at life's end is when the cost shoots up, and how does it make a difference whether it's at 50, or 110? Oh yeah, you can make 'em pay longer if they live longer. And wouldn't it be great to live, and try to find work, through several Reaganomics Recoveries? "Second hand smoke" and similar bs is one thing, but it's gonna be like running into a brick wall telling somebody they gotta run ten miles and eat nothing but tofu, bean sprouts, and those delicious rice cakes (yuk, they truly make me sick...)

        • 1 vote
        #1.25 - Sat Aug 7, 2010 12:26 AM EDT
        bgates43

        It is embarrassing. I can't stand the sight of them. The pathetic nature of their failure to control themselves is sickening.

        Polka,

        Thank you for your honest, hateful answer. I trust you're perfect in every way.

        • 5 votes
        #1.26 - Sat Aug 7, 2010 12:42 AM EDT
        Polka14

        the problem is not food...its a society that promotes the lifestyle of having no consequences to your actions that has produced this...education will do nothing.

        Is there nothing we can do to stop obesity then? Do you think this country is better as a nation of obese people? The embarrassment of obesity is one of weakness. Weakness in our society. There is nothing wrong with a big tax on fatty foods. If healthy foods is so cheap, then those fat taxes will give people an incentive to eat them.

          #1.27 - Sat Aug 7, 2010 1:46 AM EDT
          dkazDeleted
          Marshall James

          obesity is just a symptom of a bigger problem...how can you not see that? its what I stated earlier...a society that has no consequences.

          are you able to comprehend that?

          peace.

          • 3 votes
          #1.29 - Sat Aug 7, 2010 2:04 AM EDT
          American Dreams

          Polka14 -

          you and your supporters are idiots. You must be young, never had childern and clearly are not a compassionate human being. There are a lot of skinny people who are walking health hazards...have you looked in the mirror lately? I would rather be overweight and humane then be a scrawny crudmudgeon with a sour outlook on life like you have. The comment about fat people have no control over food is BS. Some do, some don't. I have control and I still can't loose weight.

          I am an older post menapausal female with a hypothroid condition. Do you think for a moment I like being 80 pounds over weight? Hell No I don't. But I can't live on >1000 calories a day. The weight I have put on is the result of aging and my thyroid going south 10 years ago. Lap band and by-pass is pretty drastic and I'm not a candidate for that even if I could afford it. I don't handle anesthesia well at all. Don't worry if I am forced to sit next to you on a plane. I won't ooze my fat germs and sweat on you. I fit in one plane seat.

          I am what is call a healthy fat person. My average blood pressure is about 114 over 64 (and that is without medication, thank you!), I don't smoke, drink and eat very little fried food. I don't have diabetes, kidney or liver issues and I do all my own yard work. If I ate like I did when I was 20 I would be 6 times as large. When we go out to eat my husband and I often split an entree but we tip like we ordered two meals. I will haul my fat ass in an endurance race against any average skinny person. I may be slower then you at the start but I can and will walk your scrawny roach a$$ into the dirt over the distance.

          • 4 votes
          #1.30 - Sat Aug 7, 2010 3:18 AM EDT
          Tired of F'Ups

          AD,

          You independance and fortitude are commendable, but at 80 pounds overweight please dont sit next to me in coach.

          • 1 vote
          #1.31 - Sat Aug 7, 2010 6:32 AM EDT
          Polka14

          a society that has no consequences.

          No consequences to their health? Dying is a very significant consequence for years of neglect towards health. What types of consequences would you like to see? I hope to see some consequences that can help to fight obesity and turn around this growing and embarrassing epidemic.

          I am an older post menapausal female with a hypothroid condition.

          My article is focused toward obese people. I would assume you're aged around 50 years old, correct?; your profile doesn't include a bio. An older woman does gain weight and the added hypothyroid problem would account for your overweight condition but 80 pounds would not be considered "obese". My article accounts for people that weight 100,150 or more pounds overweight. Those people are truly obese and a true embarrassment to our nation. They may have put themselves in that situation but something should be done to help them.

          There are a lot of skinny people who are walking health hazards...have you looked in the mirror lately?

          I am not a walking health hazard but I do know skinny people that are. But they are not an embarrassment to our nation and they are not obese...at least for now.

          #1.27 deleted for no value comment and possible undertones of inflammatory speech.

            #1.32 - Sat Aug 7, 2010 12:44 PM EDT
            American Dreams

            Tired of F'Ups #1.29

            Don't worry, I hate flying and only do it when time constraints prevent a far more enjoyable road trip. I hate being stuck in a plane seat next to people like you who are smugly moralistic and have and intolerant of of others. You don't know their stories so you have no right to sit there and judge them

            I think you must have been the seat next to me one time. The smell of stale urine, cigarette smoke clinging to your clothes, the alcohol oozing out of your pours from the bender you had the night before mixed with the cheap, vintage Hai Karate aftershave about made me toss my cookies in your lap. Or were you the young black guy with his ass hanging out of his pants and the surly attitude two rows ahead of me? Were you the redneck father with the two out of control screaming, boys climbing all over the back of my seat and bickering over who got to hold the pag of peanuts while you read your Playboy?

            • 4 votes
            #1.33 - Sat Aug 7, 2010 1:11 PM EDT
            Mongowildman

            Is there nothing we can do to stop obesity then? Do you think this country is better as a nation of obese people? The embarrassment of obesity is one of weakness. Weakness in our society. There is nothing wrong with a big tax on fatty foods. If healthy foods is so cheap, then those fat taxes will give people an incentive to eat them.

            Technically, there is absolutely nothing that can be done about it. The country IS better off with the public that is able to make these decisions for them selves, good or bad. Anything else is not freedom at all.

            This goes for many issues where the government thinks that what they want is "for your own good". It belittles the people and treats them as nothing but property. I would rather die an early death being fat and happy, than live longer in a miserable subjugation.

            • 6 votes
            #1.34 - Sat Aug 7, 2010 2:31 PM EDT
            American Dreams

            Obama should appoint you to be the Fat Nazi czar. Dr. Josef Mengele would have loved your input on how to solve the horrible blight on humanity...fat people.

            • 3 votes
            #1.35 - Sun Aug 8, 2010 11:49 PM EDT
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            Carolyn-1144975

            Low income? Think it is more about how much you put in your mouth and how much you sit around on your butt all day. Too many food stamps and welfare checks out there for these people not to buy the right foods. They do not want to, got it???

            • 3 votes
            Reply#2 - Thu Aug 5, 2010 8:43 PM EDT
            Polka14

            Some people are constrained by their poverty. Even if they can buy reasonably healthy food, how can a family buy it if the local stores only sell unhealthy food? And exercise is important but many people work all day and can not afford to exercise at a facility.

            • 8 votes
            #2.1 - Thu Aug 5, 2010 9:20 PM EDT
            Mongowildman

            Polka,
            Good topic by the way..

            Look at the foods that are considered healthy. They cost more than the usual stuff. Ever wonder why? It's because it is a marketing ploy. People get sucked in to lots of these ploys. Just make it sound french and women clamor to buy it. Make it sound ecologically friendly and all the greenies want it. Make it sound healthier than the other stuff and you have the people feeling guilty about their weight will want it.

            Overall. The healthier foods and the not-so-healthy foods start in the same place. A lot of the time, it comes from the same batches, they just get different labels for different clients.

            For 18 years, I worked for a popular bakery. Their products were premium specialty breads but they also made the usual white breads too. Different customers ordered their breads under their store brands and we also made our own brand of the same thing. There was an assortment of retail prices, all for the same bread. Ours was the most expensive but it was no different than the low end store and generic brands. It is all a matter of perception.

            • 6 votes
            #2.2 - Fri Aug 6, 2010 12:11 AM EDT
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            spudpundit

            I think there are sincere people in government who do try to do a good job. I also believe the food lobby works hard to defeat them at every turn. One example that pops to mind is the issue of transfats. It's outlandish that food producers are almost like the Monty Python Spam skit.)

            Another is the television advertising regarding high-fructose corn syrup. Sure people are often stumped when they have to come up with statistics as to why hfcs is bad for you (at least causing cancer sticks in the mind, which is the latest theory). But before the propaganda people could at least make a positive decision in their lives by cutting it out, whether they remembered the details of what they read or not. Isn't it enough that it's one of the most-subsidized food products in the country, or that the corn lobby has great influence in Congress?

            • 3 votes
            #3 - Thu Aug 5, 2010 8:45 PM EDT
            Polka14

            The food industry is part of the problem. They need to make nutritious foods less expensive.

            • 6 votes
            #3.1 - Thu Aug 5, 2010 9:22 PM EDT
            Marshall James

            there are plenty of ways to eat healthy cheap. I know a family of 7 who live off a nurses wage and they are as healthy as anyone I know. they drive old cars and dont have many nice material things...but they eat well.

            so polka you are wrong again.

            • 9 votes
            #3.2 - Fri Aug 6, 2010 3:09 AM EDT
            sjayne2355

            Good, healthy food is not expensive. For under $10, I can easily feed a family of five.

            There really is not such thing as "bad" food. There is only too much food and lack of exercise.

            Look at your typical European, say French or Italian. They eat great quantities of "bad" food, yet you don't see the rate of obesity in Europe that you see here. Why? Most Europeans walk, a lot! We eat and sit in front of our computers or televisions.

            So, no, I don't want any government entity telling me what and how I should eat. It is no one's business but my own.

            • 9 votes
            #3.3 - Fri Aug 6, 2010 8:45 AM EDT
            Polka14

            Good, healthy food is not expensive. For under $10, I can easily feed a family of five.

            How? Lean meats are expensive and would probably cost that $10 alone. Vegetables and healthy pastas are expensive too. What do you consider to be "healthy food"? A bag of chips and a hamburger?

            Look at your typical European, say French or Italian. They eat great quantities of "bad" food, yet you don't see the rate of obesity in Europe that you see here. Why? Most Europeans walk, a lot! We eat and sit in front of our computers or televisions.

            Some Europeans like Italians are known for their healthy diets. They consume healthy oils and fish and pastas. They are very healthy. Most European cultures do not typically consume bad foods.

            So, no, I don't want any government entity telling me what and how I should eat.

            I think they should. They already tell you when you can consume alcohol. They tell you to use your seatbelt when driving. Regulations are important and necessary if they exist to help people.

              #3.4 - Fri Aug 6, 2010 11:00 AM EDT
              sjayne2355

              How? Lean meats are expensive and would probably cost that $10 alone. Vegetables and healthy pastas are expensive too. What do you consider to be "healthy food"? A bag of chips and a hamburger?

              Oh, I am so happy you asked! It is not expensive to eat well. It only takes time and planning.

              Last night we ate a lovely fish fillet, spinach and corn. Total cost: $5.00 (frozen spinach and corn bought on sale at $1 a bag. Fish fillets $3 from local market)

              Tonight we are eating pizza. Total cost: Maybe $6 (Fresh cheese $3, mushrooms .99, I make the dough so a cup of flour, salt and water, Marinara sauce made at home about $2)

              And again, there are no "bad" foods. Americans eat too much and don't exercise.

              Eating a healthy diet is much cheaper than you think. But, you have to think, shop and prepare wisely. A bag of beans and rice cost next to nothing and can provide an excellent protein source. Add a green vegetableand you have a very good meal. A chicken costs a couple of dollars and can feed a family for a couple of days. First night, baked chicken with rice and mushrooms; next day soup. It easy as hell if you want to spend the time and effort. I have fed my family for a month for $50. We ate well and were never hungry. In fact, processed foods (the real killer if there is one) are more expensive than cooking from scratch. Look at macaroni and cheese. I can make more from scratch for less money than what a box of the stuff cost and it contains fewer chemicals that I would prefer not to eat.

              They already tell you when you can consume alcohol.

              I was unaware that the government tells me when I can consume alcohol...please enlighten.

              • 6 votes
              #3.5 - Fri Aug 6, 2010 11:26 AM EDT
              Polka14

              It seems like you know how to spend wisely. Most people do not. Unfortunately, you have to plan your future meals well in advance and you must make most of it yourself. What should a unmarried mother of two children do while she is employed in two jobs?

              I was unaware that the government tells me when I can consume alcohol...please enlighten.

              You can't purchase alcohol until you are 21. I think it is federal law. Maybe we should severely limit how children consume bad foods too?

                #3.6 - Fri Aug 6, 2010 11:37 AM EDT
                sjayne2355

                What should a unmarried mother of two children do while she is employed in two jobs?

                She should be doing exactly as I am. She can cook on her days off for the rest of the week. She can shop and save coupons. She should be highly aware of the realities of thrift.

                Unfortunately, you have to plan your future meals well in advance and you must make most of it yourself.

                No kidding! I also plan for my retirement, my health care and my education. If I don't, who will? The government? No thanks!

                You can't purchase alcohol until you are 21

                That is correct, you cannot purchase alcohol, but you can consume it. In my family, children are taught how to drink responsibly. We serve wine mixed with water to our children starting at around age 6. As they get older, we reduce the amount of water. By the time they can purchase it, they know how to handle it.

                • 3 votes
                #3.7 - Fri Aug 6, 2010 11:49 AM EDT
                Marshall James

                polka

                you need to realize that the obesity problem is not the problem of food. Its a mentality in this nation that our "nanny state" has done to us...and guess what they have the public thinking???? give the government more power to solve a problem...that is what people think...but its a problem that was caused by government. It fostered this mentality by the liberal thought process.

                A libertarian thought process is what I have and am going to guess sjayne has. That is being educated and making good decisions for your life.....not the liberal one where you do whatever youwant and there are no worries as the government is there to protect and or support you. Now I am not saying there are no obese libertarians. But the obese libertarians have the mentality that it is their decision and that it should not affect others or cost them. They believe it is their responsibility.

                Obesity is a problem like you have stated...but what it is, is a symptom and result to a bigger issue. that is where you are wrong.

                peace.

                • 5 votes
                #3.8 - Fri Aug 6, 2010 2:28 PM EDT
                Carolyn-1144975

                Agree, James!

                • 2 votes
                #3.9 - Sat Aug 7, 2010 8:33 PM EDT
                Marshall James

                thanks

                peace.

                • 1 vote
                #3.10 - Tue Aug 10, 2010 3:01 AM EDT
                Knowlton's Rangers

                It seems that many low income families already have the government helping them out. No one has mentioned that those who are an embarrassment to polka that she says can't afford healthy food, more than likely have a food stamp card. So the government has already helped by providing them a line of food credit that we the taxpayer spring for along with WIC.

                I just find Polka's attitude appauling and what goes around comes around. Be thankful your in good health and slim now, because someday you may have to be under the watchful eye of your government if you get what you wish.

                I bid you peace which only has 30 calories per blessing.

                • 3 votes
                #3.11 - Wed Aug 11, 2010 6:52 AM EDT
                American Dreams

                Knowlton's Rangers

                If you replaced the process sugar in your sweet "peace" comment with Splenda it would cut the calories in half! You could spread twice the peace for the same calories! And you couldn't tell a difference in taste..or so I am told.

                • 4 votes
                #3.12 - Wed Aug 11, 2010 1:19 PM EDT
                Knowlton's Rangers

                American I never thought of that....lol I will give it a try.

                I bid you Splenda peace /15 calories per blessing

                I feel thinner already.

                • 2 votes
                #3.13 - Thu Aug 12, 2010 12:26 AM EDT
                American Dreams

                I knew you would! LOL Double the Peace at the same cost...works for me!

                • 2 votes
                #3.14 - Thu Aug 12, 2010 12:31 AM EDT
                Polka14

                someday you may have to be under the watchful eye of your government if you get what you wish.

                Good government intervention would include taxes on unhealthy foods and taxes on the companies that make unhealthy foods. If healthy foods are so cheap, then low-income people will have more incentive to buy them.

                If you replaced the process sugar in your sweet "peace" comment with Splenda it would cut the calories in half! You could spread twice the peace for the same calories! And you couldn't tell a difference in taste..or so I am told

                Even I may take a "peace" comment now

                • 1 vote
                #3.15 - Thu Aug 12, 2010 10:26 AM EDT
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                SpoxLogic

                Video games. I blame it on video games. You'll have friends get together to play basketball and football...in their living rooms on a game console!!

                • 2 votes
                Reply#4 - Thu Aug 5, 2010 9:43 PM EDT
                Polka14

                Television is probably a greater problem then videogames even though videogames are part of the problem. Parents need to spend more time parenting their children; they should teach them about exercise and how important it is. They need to prevent obesity and the government should help them when their burden is too great. It is very embarrassing to hear how so many Americans do not exercise enough, leading to obesity.

                • 1 vote
                #4.1 - Thu Aug 5, 2010 9:47 PM EDT
                Carolyn-1144975

                Government help them do what, get off their butts! This is a personal responsibility only. The government should have nothing to do with it. Oh, yeah, they can. Weigh them each time they go to get their free food stamps and welfare checks and cut back on the check if they weigh too much or tell the doc to report them to feds for being obese. Your comments are insane!

                • 2 votes
                #4.2 - Sat Aug 7, 2010 8:36 PM EDT
                Polka14

                How are my comments "insane". I want the government to help people. That is the government's purpose. Nothing "insane" about it.

                  #4.3 - Sat Aug 7, 2010 8:39 PM EDT
                  American Dreams

                  Polka14 -

                  You point fingers and demand the Govenrment step in to rule and control fat people's lives. You never see the person under the fat or bother to learn why they are fat.

                  When my daughter 17 years old she was 130 pound and 5'9" tall. She was placed on an antidepressant to combat a chemical inbalance and suicidal leanings as a result of the imbalance. Six months later she was well on her way back to mental health again but was a whopping 285 pounds. Why? The prescribed medication messed with her body's chemistry...her normal appetite suppression was all but shut down. Her body was signaling 24 / 7 that she was starving and needed to eat. She could not tell when she was full. The Doctors prescribed a pill for appeitie control but that caused a series of other problems. Was she to blame for lack of self control around food? Would you and your cult of the skinny followers heap scorn and more emotional stress on an emotionally fragile teenage girl who was already feeling awful for her balloning weight? Very soft hearted and understanding of you all.

                  We got her through the crisis and she came off the medication her weight dropped almost as fast as she gained it. But now at age 27, she has to deal with embarassment of excessively loose skin. But by your standards she is okay because she is no longer fat.

                  I have a friend who is nearly as fat as I am. She has sever asthma and allergies to most common foods. Soy, vanilla, glutien, yeast, wheat, corn, eggs, olive oil, dairy products and many more things do bad bad things to her. She must eat healthier then many skinny people. She's had three serious car accidents in 35 years - a drunk hit her and two people ran red lights while she was making a left hand turn on green and t-boned her. Her back and neck has been reduced to a series of metal rods and pins. She is in constant pain and can not walk far, she can no longer drive as her legs and hands go numb if she sits too long. She can't even take a shower alone in her house as she falls with no warning. The combination of her pain pump medication and steroids used to combat the asthma and allergies has caused her to gain wieght. You would find fault with her for being fat and disgusting by your myopic view on over weight people?

                  A co-worker has a skinny daughter you would approve of. She is 5' 6" tall and never gets above 110 pounds. Never mind the fact she is only 35 years old and dying. Her ex-boyfriend / fiancés gave her the HIV virus which has turned into full blown aids. Some times during a crisis flare up of the disease she drops to 80 pounds and must be hospitalized and tube fed. She is skinny as a rail so you and your crowd would find her acceptable.

                  • 3 votes
                  #4.4 - Mon Aug 9, 2010 12:33 AM EDT
                  American Dreams

                  Not surprised you are silent...you won't acknowledge some people are fat due reasons beyond eatting too much. If you want to live with a Nanny Government controling all aspects of your and others lives? By all means, don't let me stop up - move to China or Iran. The Government needs to butt out of my life. Leave us Americans to make our own decisions and live with the consequences of our choice. This seed has sucked too much of my time up already...have a nice life in China.

                  • 2 votes
                  #4.5 - Mon Aug 9, 2010 10:46 AM EDT
                  Polka14

                  Not surprised you are silent...you won't acknowledge some people are fat due reasons beyond eatting too much.

                  I'm Sorry I actually have important obligations to attend to during the day.

                  I understand that there are exceptions that need to be considered. They are rare though and the vast majority of overweight people are unhealthy because they do not do enough to help themselves.

                    #4.6 - Mon Aug 9, 2010 7:52 PM EDT
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                    sscott

                    It is a matter of personal choice, and personal responsiblity.

                    Process sugar is probably the biggest culprit, so the advent of artificial sweeteners is good.

                    Governments role in this is very limited to education (labeling). We don't need more laws, more regulations.

                    And every grocery store I have been in has fruits and vegetables.

                    True, not as tasty as a twinkie, but people need to have self control. If they don't they suffer the consequences.

                    Myself, I have a small garden and my wife an I enjoy fresh vegetables and strawberries from it in season, and make do with the grocery store variety in the off season. We also gave up pork of all kinds, and she is diabetic, so we gave up (mostly) sugar and hfcs. I have to admit, i love sour gummi worms, but I limit myself. I do work in a 12 story alternative fuel refinery, all stairs, no elevators, and that helps.

                    Good article. Raising awareness will go a long way to helping.

                    • 11 votes
                    Reply#5 - Thu Aug 5, 2010 9:49 PM EDT
                    Polka14

                    Good article. Raising awareness will go a long way to helping.

                    Thank you. I agree that the blame must be shifted to the obese people first. But some are hopelessly confined to a life that promotes obesity and those desperate people should be given help to alleviate their problems with bad diets. The government should accelerate their nutrition programs in public schools. Furthermore, they should ban all unhealthy foods in those public schools. Do you think obesity is the nation's worst embarrassment, sscott?

                    • 1 vote
                    #5.1 - Thu Aug 5, 2010 9:53 PM EDT
                    sscott

                    Not the worst, but in the top 10. But not the obese adults, it's the obese children that bother me.

                    Many schools have ended sports programs because of lawsuits and threats of lawsuits.

                    There are no easy answers here. Education is the most important, and science can play a role by coming up with substitutes for sugar and fat.

                    I'm not a fan of the public school system, but as long as it's there, some common sense in menus would probably help.

                    I've heard recently of a drug that is in trials that is supposed to work, causing bodies to burn more calories, and has shown in the trials that it works. I'll look for a link.

                    • 5 votes
                    #5.2 - Thu Aug 5, 2010 11:29 PM EDT
                    Polka14

                    I've heard recently of a drug that is in trials that is supposed to work, causing bodies to burn more calories, and has shown in the trials that it works. I'll look for a link.

                    I would definitely avoid any drugs that promise to help people lose weight. They are usually fake and some have been known to lead to death! The only way to lose weight that actually works would be a healthy balance of healthy foods and reasonable exercise. That needs to be taught to children and some adults unfortunately. Our nation can not be continuously embarrassed by these people while they are catered to with larger seats, different infrastructure and even larger coffins!

                    Many schools have ended sports programs because of lawsuits and threats of lawsuits.

                    What did the parents sue over? They should be ashamed; trying to prevent their children from being healthy should be considered child abuse.

                    some common sense in menus would probably help.

                    Most schools simply serve pizza, french fries and a large assortment of surgery drinks and fattening foods. They need to be removed from America's schools.

                    But not the obese adults, it's the obese children that bother me.

                    To me it is all bad. My article outlined briefly how obese people effect non-obese in society in addition to the general unpleasantness of even watching them in society.

                      #5.3 - Thu Aug 5, 2010 11:38 PM EDT
                      sscott

                      Here's the drug. Read the study.

                      They had people exercise and control their diet as well.

                      The people that took the drug lost far more weight than the placebo group.

                      There are a few others on the horizon, but this is a breakthrough.

                      http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-07-29/orexigen-s-two-drug-obesity-pill-cuts-hunger-cravings-weight-in-obese.html

                      • 3 votes
                      #5.4 - Thu Aug 5, 2010 11:54 PM EDT
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                      Mongowildman

                      I think it is just plain immaturity. People are growing up later and later these days. Take your 30 somethings for example: What is important to that age group? It is things like smart phones and x-boxes. Drinking and partying like we did at 17 and outgrew by the 20's.

                      Now the 20 somethings - some of the same things are of priority but it goes beyond that. They are the risk takers. No responsibilities and generally live with room mates because they cannot earn enough to pay their rent all by them selves. They don't want to work for a living when everything they ever needed was provided by their parents, who misguidedly tried to make life better for their children than what they had. Well, it worked - the kids have it better alright but now that the parents are dying off, it leaves a bunch of dependent adults in their wake.

                      Look at the teens now. No concept of reality at all. They argue against the proven logic based on things they have heard from their peers. So many of them can't read or do simple math because they were pushed through the educational system so no children will be left behind. Nice concept but that didn't teach a thing.

                      Skip ahead to the folks in their 40's. Most are progeny of the 1960's where freedom was the big thing. Their parents were either staunch republicans or democrats. There was not much but left and right. The moderates were just coming into the spotlight and social issues were equated through TV shows like Star Trek and Mission Impossible. These kids were still taught to say the Pledge of Allegiance at the beginning of the school day and to read and write. Things that have lost their value in the newer generations. They are the last responsible generation of the country.

                      How about us over 50? Frustrated with the decline in everything from intellect to true social issues. We are watching the things we worked hard for, being taken away by the opportunistic few that found ways of digging into our incomes. We are dismayed with the lack of value now showing its ugly head, where collectible antiques are tossed aside for the new disposable junk. Disgusted with the "throwaway society" that has taken root where nothing but a good time is valued.

                      Granted, there will be blurred lines through these generations and some may or may not fit in to any one category but I am generalizing, lest I write a book on it, which I do not want to do.

                      Personal choice is becoming a thing of the past. What is in its place is dictated through the media and peer pressure. So many fall into the mold that individuality is nothing but an illusion.

                      You can't blame it on TV or anything else. The entire population is being dumbed down so nobody will have the ammo to resist.

                      • 3 votes
                      Reply#6 - Thu Aug 5, 2010 10:13 PM EDT
                      Polka14

                      So you consider immaturity to be the nation's greatest embarrassment? That is a good opinion. Americans are ridiculed more often for our obesity problem though.

                      • 2 votes
                      #6.1 - Thu Aug 5, 2010 11:08 PM EDT
                      Mongowildman

                      Yup. Think about it... Those who have a lack of self control are typically in this group. They lack the maturity or self-control to live healthy lives. They chose to do that and they need to choose not to as well. Self-control is a sign of maturity.

                      Schools are full of fat kids because they are being coddled. So many nowadays are operating under a cloak of fear, where parents having grown older (not up) with the things they take for granted. If their kid is set aside for anything at all, they threaten lawsuits. Kids can't play on the same playground equipment we had because someone *might* get hurt. Gym class is not even a requirement any more.

                      This immaturity brings on a lot of other problems as well. That is why I think it is more of an embarrassment.

                      • 2 votes
                      #6.2 - Fri Aug 6, 2010 12:02 AM EDT
                      Polka14

                      That is why I think it is more of an embarrassment.

                      I understand if immaturity is worse then obesity but you can not see immaturity in random people. It is more of an abstract concept; you can see obesity though and it is everywhere. That is why I consider our most embarrassing problem to be obesity.

                        #6.3 - Fri Aug 6, 2010 1:20 AM EDT
                        Polka14Deleted
                        Mongowildman

                        Let's not forget those who are simply genetically overweight... Maybe they should all be put down.

                        What I am getting at is that we do NOT need the government deciding what we eat and how much. It is not their purpose and the excuse "for their own good" is as weak as anything I have ever heard. That violates freedom of choice.

                        Or do you really want to see the country reduced to nothing but drones, serving the collective?

                        • 4 votes
                        #6.5 - Fri Aug 6, 2010 10:14 AM EDT
                        Polka14

                        Let's not forget those who are simply genetically overweight... Maybe they should all be put down.

                        Too many people are using the genetics card as an excuse to not even try to lose weight. They can but they will not try. They need help. They should not be allowed to become obese. That is why the government should help by taxing all bad foods severely while giving low-income families heavy incentives to purchase healthy foods and local groceries to stock healthy foods. This is the kind of intervention I want to see. People will still buy bad foods if they wish but they will have to pay more like the taxpayers have to pay in additional health care costs to cover the obese people.

                        • 1 vote
                        #6.6 - Fri Aug 6, 2010 11:03 AM EDT
                        Reply
                        Rick_VT

                        I believe the problem is in a sense a perfect storm of contributing factors.

                        • People on the whole lead much less active lives than even 30 years ago working fewer physical jobs and more desk jobs.
                        • People eat more processed foods today than ever before and more meals in restaurants where portions are double what someone would normal eat but clean their plates because its in front of them.
                        • TV, video games, etc. instead of sports or energy-burning activities
                        • Easy access to sugar laden beverages - colas, high caloric Starbucks-type drinks, etc.

                        The bottom line is that if you consume say 8,000 calories and burn only 4,000 during the same 24 hour period, a significant portion of that extra 4,000 will be stored on your body. You will get fat, you will gain weight.

                        Easy access to food and drinks that are easily and mindlessly consumed during the day add up... the little candy bars at the receptionist's desk, the yummy big bagel with cream cheese mid-morning, fast food burger with bacon, cheese, coke and fries at lunch, hearty dinner and a bowl of ice cream watching TV at night will combine to make anyone that isn't running a marathon a day fat, pound by pound, inch by inch.

                        If you actually figure it out, just the fast-food lunch alone probably put you way over the top of you required food intake needed to live - let alone all the rest you took in.

                        And, many restaurants don't help at all... for example, the local McDonald's is currently running a 2 for $3 promotion of their egg, cheese, bacon and biscuit breakfast sandwiches. If you want just one, it's about $4. Simple choice... most will go for the deal and end up eating both sandwiches. Why not just make the single serving $1.50 instead? Profit. Because if people just bought one, the store has half the sale dollars.

                        For 99 percent of Americans that are obese, it is exactly as outlined above - plain and simple. Excuses of overactive this or that, slow metabolisms, or other contributing medical reasoning... just don't apply to the majority - the only thing actually overactive is the hand-into-mouth actions, made worse by the easy accessibility of high sugar, high fat junk.

                        • 1 vote
                        Reply#7 - Thu Aug 5, 2010 11:49 PM EDT
                        huanghuijieDeleted
                        UNA_Lion

                        Good article, Polka14. Obesity is a serious issue afflicting too many Americans.

                        • 2 votes
                        Reply#9 - Fri Aug 6, 2010 1:58 AM EDT
                        Polka14

                        Thank you. Too many people simply do not understand.

                          #9.1 - Fri Aug 6, 2010 11:06 AM EDT
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                          Jeffrey

                          Obesity isn't an embarrassment at all. I am not obese, yet I have obese friends who are happy with who they are. There are much worse things to be embarrassed about, such as how America is racist and prejudice, and how the citizens seem to team up against their own government. I think America has a false sense of vanity, putting everything ugly down, yet it is how some live their lives that is ugly.

                          • 3 votes
                          Reply#10 - Fri Aug 6, 2010 11:06 AM EDT
                          KyleN

                          The first thing the government could do to promote healthy food is quit subsidizing the industrial corn farming that leads to everything under the sun being sweetened with artificially cheap high fructose corn syrup.

                          That's an idea that would actually save the taxpayer money while helping the health of most Americans. But not going to happen because Republicans protect the corporate farmers subsidies and the Democrats protect the inner city syrup addict's processed food vice.

                          I'm not a nutjob who hates all corporations or even corporate farms, in fact I think they are usually ok but that doesn't mean we the taxpayers need to be forking over billions in subsidies to them. The premise of the subsidies is national security and food independence but the US is a great place to grow food, we have a competitive advantage in it over nearly every other country so even without subsidies more than enough food will be grown in country for the population. And food security shouldn't care about high fructose corn syrup anyway - we can all do without.

                          • 1 vote
                          Reply#11 - Fri Aug 6, 2010 4:18 PM EDT
                          MDC-441879

                          Something I don't understand, I'm skinny. I've been skinny most of my life. I've had fat people look at me say things like;

                          "Oh, you're so skinny." or "You need to put some meat on those bones."

                          Now if I were to say to someone who had a few too many pounds on them, "If somebody told you to haul ass, it would take two trips."

                          Jeez, do they get mad.

                            Reply#12 - Sat Aug 7, 2010 1:01 AM EDT
                            Polka14

                            Their lifestyle is wrong and they know it. They should be ashamed of themselves.

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                            #12.1 - Sat Aug 7, 2010 1:47 AM EDT
                            Marshall James

                            polka

                            I have been arguing you theory on this problem and you dont seem able to understand.

                            you obviously have issues with the larger species. Probably like I do with people who want to force their morality on others...ie religous right...left wing and let me make this clear....you.

                            what makes you the deciding factor on what is right and wrong????? what makes you think you have the right to decide how someone should live their life???? what if mental illness of a phobia or fat people was decided to be illegal??? or regulated...weould you be so free then to promote intolerance???

                            you are a hateful person for this seed....and I am sorry I have wasted my time with you...you are not worth the time to read two words.

                            peace out and go eat at mcdonalds.

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                            #12.2 - Sat Aug 7, 2010 2:09 AM EDT
                            dkaz

                            james, there's an exclamation point at the top right of each article. Use it.

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                            #12.3 - Sat Aug 7, 2010 2:28 AM EDT
                            Polka14

                            Probably like I do with people who want to force their morality on others..

                            I do not want to force morality on anyone, I want to see improvements in the health of Americans with the defeat of obesity. It is no different then others trying to defeat cancer. They are both major health epidemics and if both were defeated, our nation would be improved.

                            you are a hateful person for this seed.

                            The only thing I hate about this is being mocked for living in the fattest nation on Earth. It is embarrassing to hear.

                              #12.4 - Sat Aug 7, 2010 12:50 PM EDT
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                              Polka14

                              In the end, the results of my poll alone show how embarrassing obesity truly is.

                              Only 18% could admit to being obese. I suppose the Vine could be populated by a larger percentage of healthy people but I strongly believe that it is most likely that most people are too embarrassed to admit their health problems. The national average for obesity is higher then 20% so some people must be lying!

                              And if you don't know if you are obese or not, there are easy ways to research that in books or on internet research sites.

                                Reply#13 - Sat Aug 7, 2010 12:54 PM EDT
                                Carolyn Johansen

                                When I had a job I was not obese. I worked 8 hours and spent 3 hours commuting. I walked my dog, ate a spare supper and went to bed. I had no time for food. NOW I sped 10 hours a day on the internet job hunting and filling out applications and e-mailing resumes. I still walk the dog but in the 18 months I have been unemployed I have gained 30 lbs. My job kept me active, busy and away from food. When I get a new job, I will shed the pounds as I work. I won't be tied to a desk all day filling out meaningless forms and composing cover letters for positions for which employers will receive 300 applications within 5 days of posting.

                                If government did not waste money pestering citizens about their diets, they would have more cash to spend on broken down bridges and pot holes and police and firefighters. They would not tax and spend the economy into a Depression so that I cannot find a decent job--to expend my energy and keep my weight down.

                                This NANNY STATE attitude in the USA has got to be stopped before we become a 3rd world nation and don't have the money to feed our population anything. Perhaps that is the way they intend to get us all skinny!

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                                Reply#14 - Sat Aug 7, 2010 3:19 PM EDT
                                American Dreams

                                Carolyn Johansen I agree. Polka14 and her Fat Nazi want the government to control all aspects of life..for our own good.

                                Part of the problem with the US today is common sense and personal responsiblity has been removed from fmost peoples thinking. You make a choice and things go wrong? you blame someone else and sue the pants off them. It's not my fault I ran the red light, God put the sun was in my eyes. The signal light was set too short, I was distracted by texting my boyfriend so I need to sue the phone company. It's the bartender's fault I had one too many and killed that family.

                                Now there is a good seed topic - what should be done with people who drink and drive? It's not like there is no information about the dangers and the facts are easy to find. But we have repeat DWI offenders and repeat accident causing drunks who so far have not killed anyone. Drunk driving and buzzed driving is a far great threat to Americans then if someone makes the personal choice to committ slow suicide by eating one too many Big Macs. Parents and the some nut jobs want to sue MCD's for putting toys in the Happy Meals. What happen to parents telling their kid "No. McD is a once in a while meal." No one forces them to take their family there everyday for months on end. Why should fast food buisness have to defend their offerings from lawsuits. There's a wonderful room in most houses called a kitchen People seem to have forgotten how to cook and how to make good meals for pennies.

                                You want to see the true effect of the Ultimate Nanny State? Look at North Korea. There every aspct of life is control by their Government . Right down to who gets food and who must search the roadside for edible weeds. Look at how the Taliban wants to control the lives and activities of women - for their own good. When you start pushing for our Government to control how much food fat people can get - for their own good - it's a slippery slope you set the US on.

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                                Reply#15 - Tue Aug 10, 2010 10:42 AM EDT
                                Marshall James

                                and we are more than well on our way. for one because people like polka cant see it. they think that what they are doing and thinking on forcing people to do what is good for them is a good thing.

                                amazing.

                                • 3 votes
                                #15.1 - Tue Aug 10, 2010 10:47 AM EDT
                                PastNikeVet-906575Deleted
                                Marshall James

                                I do for one.

                                does anyone understand libertarians or what they stand for??? amazing.

                                a pack of cigs is now about 9.89 here....basically its making them illegal for the poor..which of course will cause an underground...giving criminals money and making criminals out of others.

                                its a corrupt system and we need to get the government out of our lives and pushing their morals on us.

                                this was another left wing assault on the rights of americans.

                                peace.

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                                #15.3 - Tue Aug 10, 2010 3:39 PM EDT
                                American Dreams

                                It boils down to personal resposiblitiy and personal choices. It is not the role of the Government to control my personal life. I don't support smokers...but I don't treat them like they have cooties either and demand the Government control them..."for their own good." My mother died of lung cancer due to her smoking habit. Not a nice way to go, trust me. My objection to smokers is their second smoke affects my health. If a business to wants to permit smoking I don't care. If they want my money they need to also provide a good smoke free area. If they don't, I am always free to take my money on down the road to a place that has good food and smoke free air. My choice to inhale a bucket of fries or a slice of cheese cake is not hurting the health of the person sitting behind me.

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                                #15.4 - Tue Aug 10, 2010 4:30 PM EDT
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                                baddestbob

                                people should not quit smoking. to do so is unpatriotic in two ways:

                                1. when you quit you gain weight and cause this nation much embarrassment.

                                2. when you quit smoking you are responsible for a loss of revenue thus adding to the deficit.

                                in spite of the smoke screen surrounding this issue, it is obvious that the liberals are behind this plot.

                                • 2 votes
                                Reply#16 - Tue Aug 10, 2010 3:54 PM EDT
                                Marshall James

                                1. when you quit you gain weight and cause this nation much embarrassment

                                you had me rolling....good one.

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                                #16.1 - Tue Aug 10, 2010 3:57 PM EDT
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                                cookin mamaDeleted
                                Polka14

                                #16- deleted and reported.

                                  Reply#18 - Sat Aug 14, 2010 5:35 PM EDT
                                  joe-1280782

                                  A Very sensitive subject you have chosen to take on Polka and one which has garnished a lot of outrage..I myself am a bit overwieght and not very proud of it, But I got a wake up call the other day to change my eating habits and excercize a little more, But I can see your a little stuck on having the Government control this situation by either levying Higher taxes or outright shutting down fast foo joints,and actually I can't remember who said it but to the guy who weighs 300 pounds and said don't take away my big macs...don't worry...the decision to eat yourself into oblivion is safe with me..(Maybe you will receive the same wake up call as myself)..I will never believe government regulation is the answer to the problem Polka..Government regulations rarely solve problems...they open up a whole can of worms..Look at the regulating of Cigarettes and the over-taxation of the industry..people still smoke...they just go outside the bars now...hey that's their choice..I gave it up voluntarily 25 years ago, before they became $ 8.00 dollars a pack(That's obscene) Government doesn't want you to quit smoking...That would seriously cut into their profits..Government doesn't want you to do anything but to be dependent on it for the greater good(or bad)..anyway Polka, I am a conservative, but I applaud your efforts for taking on a sensitive subject, but knowing how young you are I totally understand it...The rose hasn't come off your glasses yet and I mean that in the Positive sense..

                                  My choice to inhale a bucket of fries or a slice of cheese cake is not hurting the health of the person sitting behind me.

                                  That's pretty funny AD

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                                  Reply#19 - Thu Oct 28, 2010 11:28 AM EDT
                                  Polka14

                                  I am glad that you would take a more calm approach to this subject. Most people get defensive at any suggestion that the government should do something about our obesity problem. There is a reason that obesity is called a disease. It is unnatural and morally wrong. The obese should have to pay more in society and for their hospital bills for doing nothing about their health. The obese can complain if they want but the talk about "taxes" and "government control" is really about them hating exercise and eating the right foods.

                                  I applaud your efforts for taking on a sensitive subject, but knowing how young you are I totally understand it.

                                  The problem is very great now and if nothing is done about this, Americans like me will be a slim minority living in a nation of the obese when I am older. I don't wish this nation to be known in this world as the Obese Nation.

                                    #19.1 - Fri Oct 29, 2010 1:14 AM EDT
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                                    joe-1280782

                                    Most people get defensive at any suggestion that the government should do something about our obesity problem.

                                    Don't get me wrong though, I am not in favor of Government stepping in and trying to solve the problem..The only thing they solved by trying to tax the Tobacco industry into oblivion is the Government collected more taxes...

                                    About 82% of what consumers pay for a pack of cigarettes (average cost $5.15 - including statewide sales taxes but not local cigarette or sales taxes) ends up going to the government in taxes and other payments rather than for the cigarettes.

                                    http://retirementliving.com/RLtaxes.html

                                    States Also Use Funds for General Budget Items

                                  • States do not always distribute all of the funds collected from cigarette taxes to health-related issues, though, as many states use the money to plug gaping holes in state budgets. By adding cigarette tax funds into the state's general ledger, state governments can fund items ranging from state parks to payroll for the highway patrol. Some states also choose to simply squirrel away the money collected from cigarette taxes, allowing the money to collect interest that can then be spent on high-priority budget items. According to the Independence Institute, a Colorado-based government watchdog, a 1999 bill requires Colorado to place cigarette tax money into a trust fund, allocating only 6 percent of the principle balance for spending each year.
                                  • Municipalities Also Spend Cigarette Taxes

                                  • Depending on where consumers shop, they might pay an additional cigarette tax imposed by the local municipality. According to The New York Times, municipalities collect over $600 million dollars each year in cigarette taxes, with New York City collecting as much as a $1.50 for each pack of cigarettes sold in the city's five boroughs. Like the funds collected by states, the money collected at the municipal level is largely unregulated and may be spent on a number of purposes. Depending on the municipality's needs, cigarette tax funds may be allocated to local health programs, traffic enforcement or even city employee payroll.
                                  • Read more: How Are Cigarette Taxes Spent by the Government? | eHow.comhttp://www.ehow.com/how-does_5507217_cigarette-taxes-spent-government.html#ixzz13mIU0PjC

                                    I hope you can see that the federal Government does not always use the taxes it collect for it's intended purpose..They don't want you to quit smoking and they don't want you to stop eating fast food...They need the taxes from those enterprises...Which is one of the reasons I am against The federal Governments intrusion into the" health of the people" BS... They could care less what I eat..It is up to every individual as to what garbage they feed thier bodies with...As far as the Obesity problem I still don't feel that is the government's role in a free society...Maybe in a less free society such as Communism or Socialism

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                                    Reply#20 - Fri Oct 29, 2010 3:39 PM EDT
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